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It’s time for another edition of Dr. Love’s Tips, in which Impossible USA’s Camera Resource Manager Frank Love provides you with advice on how to get the best out of your camera and Impossible film. This week’s entry will hopefully offer some answers to the oft-asked questions about pack film, 4×5 film and roll film…
We have gotten many requests, questions, and pleas about creating more than just the amazing formats of SX-70, Spectra, and 600 film since the initial announcement of The Impossible Project. These requests have especially been renewed recently with the unveiling of our new 8×10 film.
I just want to take a moment to explain how it is we have come to be manufacturing the films we do, and why we aren’t making other formats.
To start, we have to look at Polaroid’s manufacturing setup: There was no singular Polaroid plant to produce their films. Polaroid did have one plant that produced all the raw paper and negative material which was located here in the US in Massachusetts. Then Polaroid had a plant in Enschede where the integral format films were produced (SX-70, Spectra/1200, 600), and in Mexico they had yet another facility that produced the peel-apart films. The trick with this means, that to be able to produce all the Polaroid films, you need all the plants/factories, or at least the right components from each.
This is one of the largest reasons why Impossible went back to the drawing board when producing the integral films. The factory that was saved was specifically the integral factory in Enscede, Holland that had the millions of dollars worth of what is effectively just assembly machinery. The facility in Waltham, MA that produced the raw materials had been long closed and gutted by this point behind the scenes. This means that the core ingredients were not producible, add to that the change in environmental laws for others, and you have a film formula that cannot be produced anymore. This began the reconstitution of a new supply chain with new materials and a new overall formula to create new Impossible film.
So this explains the films we are making…what about the rest?
The 8×10 production came by a stroke of luck, as the machines had simply been disconnected and moved to a warehouse in MA instead of being disassembled and sold off. They were discovered there by Impossible and then acquired and moved to what was now our plant in Holland. Thankfully as the 8×10 did not produce on the mass scale as the smaller formats, the machinery was not the size of a large room, but rather was portable enough to move. We have also produced 20×24 film, but these have been one-off hand-cut pieces and is also possible because the demand isn’t at production scale, so machines aren’t needed, and a higher cost is acceptable.
As to the other peel-apart formats (4×5, type 100 and type 80), these were produced in Polaroid’s Waltham and Mexico factories. These factories were closed and the machinery was dismantled and scrapped, sadly. Some have also asked about the earlier peel apart ‘roll-film’ formats of the first Polaroid cameras. Polaroid ceased the manufacturing of these formats in 1992, and the capabilities to produce this film has been long gone. It was also discontinued because it was more problematic versus pack film, and produced more waste as well.
Without these machines for the pack films or 4×5, production would have to be hand-made, which would mean extremely limited quantities at extremely high prices. If Polaroid hadn’t dismantled these machines, these formats could be in the same boat as the 8×10, retooled and re-imagined. To rebuild the machines would be a simply cost-prohibitive investment. So as of the current situation, with current machinery available, there are no plans to make any formats other than SX-70, 600 and Spectra/Image. This doesn’t mean it can never happen, but we can’t predict what may happen to change these circumstances.
I hope this helps in clearing up any questions people have, and as always…
keep your rollers clean,
-f
This is good information. Though it is a little disappointing to lose the ability to do instant film with a 4×5. But maybe something impossible will happen.
Thank you Frank for this entry. Will the 500 format for Captiva ever be revived?
How about Impossible extending their overhaul/repair capabilities to offering film pack conversions for the older cameras. I have a 120 & would love to use it. I have seen conversions detailed on US websites but it just beyond my capabilities. If you could do them for say e200 I’d go for it – also it would give you another customer!
I just finished reading Instant-The Story of Polaroid and want to shoot with my old Polaroid cameras more than ever. I have an SX-70, several 600s and just purchased a Spectra on ebay. Thanks so much keeping the old machines running.
Not only is the old Polaroid building gutted, it’s mostly demolished. I am sad every time I pass the formerly bustling plant.
Thanks for the update. It’s unfortunate, yes, but fortunately there is still the Fuji packfilm options. I agree with James-why compete? I’d rather see IP continue with the integral film so that it will become more affordable to more people. It’s too much for me to buy right now. Dave in Maine, USA
What about going through Fuji’s system, re 4×5? They are closing their manufacting down, so could it not be reformulated to use their system, etc.?
then by the 4×5 pack film machinery of fuji ;)
and continue your great work!
Good to know! I’d just keep a lookout for if/when Fuji decides to discontinue its packfilm and dismantle the machinery.
You should also note that Fuji is still producing pack film and 4×5 film. While the 4×5 film isn’t compatible with the old Polaroid holders, an instant film for those format cameras still exist. The need for the Impossible Project to creat a competing product isn’t there. Support instant film made by Fuji as well as the Impossible Project to insure these products stay in production!
It’s so sad to imagine all of those amazing machines beings broken down and sold as scrap. It seems a bit short sighted on Polaroid’s part, but I am sure that the “death of analog” was looming over the execs who make those kind of calls. I am just really grateful that you (the Impossible Team) were able to save the machines that you did and were lucky enough to stumble upon the 8×10.
Thanks for this information, as much as I love type-100 packfilm, I understand better now why Impossible can’t bring it back, besides there’s always Fuji :) Keep up the good work, I’m loving your films!